Orbán: Brussels doesn't want to give us the money, so they are stalling with made up questions

September 29. 2023. – 09:14 AM

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Most Friday mornings, Hungary’s Prime Minister gives an interview on one of the public radio stations. Since the independent media has not had a chance to interview him for several years, these weekly radio interviews are the only opportunity to find out what the leader of the country thinks about current events, how he sees his opponents and any issues at hand.

This week, the Prime Minister started by announcing the one-time pension supplement the state will provide for pensioners in November, adding that “the overwhelming majority of pensioners support the national government”, and that “while the state budget can't afford this right now, it must be done”.

The war in Ukraine: “We'll be proven right in the end”

The Western world is far from the war in Ukraine and they haven't conducted a sober assessment of the situation. The front lines are not moving, tens of thousands are dying, and there's no end in sight. "We are comforting ourselves with the conviction that while Hungarians are not seen as being right, we'll be proven right in the end," Orbán said, responding to a question on the noticeable decline in support for Ukraine in the West.

The Hungarian Prime Minister sees no indication in the Hungarian parliament that MPs see Ukraine as becoming a member of the European Union. Ukraine is a country at war, with an unstable situation.

“Should one start negotiations with a country that's at war? Especially if it's a territorial war. So we do not know how much territory this country has. The war is still ongoing. We don't know what its population is, because they have fled.”

On the blocked EU funds: Brussels doesn't want to give us the money, so they are stalling by “asking made up questions”

Many say the EU should take a loan to support Ukraine – but the Hungarian government disagrees. As for the EU money that Hungary is entitled to, the Prime Minister said he was not even sure that the money was there, it may have already been given to Ukraine. Brussels owes Hungary roughly €3 billion, or about 1,200 billion forints, which is a " sizeable sum ". The Brussels bureaucrats are "stalling for time", the Hungarian prime minister said.

During negotiations on the fate of the withheld funds, they are asking such frivolous questions as for example "whether the judges have enough office space.

It's plain niggling, the whole situation is absurd", Orbán said. "Brussels doesn't want to give us the money so they are asking made up questions."

The Prime Minister said that he believes – but added that he "might not be able to defend this in an open debate" – that the Brussels bureaucrats are waiting for the result of this year's Polish elections, which will be held in mid-October. If the current Polish government stays, there will be one country left that remains in alliance with Hungary, and the fate of Hungary's money could be resolved faster.

Migration, the biggest threat to our future

The Prime Minister sees different demographic trends on the two sides of the Mediterranean. We are living in an age when people born on the south side of the sea are coming up here.

"Seeing migration as a daily human rights issue is a mistake (...) Migration is a bad thing." Since 2015, the process “has become an invasion, and this is not an assumption, it's a fact.”

So far we' ve been able to protect Hungary from migration and people agree on the issue of immigration. Left-wing politicians see this differently from the national government, but the people agree. The decisions taken in the EU, however, "encourage migration".

According to Orbán, the situation is simple: "if you want to protect yourself from migration, don't let migrants in." In his opinion, the only people allowed in should be those who have applied to us, we have examined their case and decided: "my dear friend, you may come in".

We should be involved in improving the situation in the regions at the source of migration, but the EU isn't doing that either. Hungary is helping, and even now there are negotiations going on at full speed.

Orbán said it would be nice if the V4 had a united position on migration, but this is no longer the case. He added that on the migration debate, "the Czechs took off from us a while ago", and now the Slovaks are doing the same.

Viktor Orbán avoids critical questions at home. It’s been years since he gave an interview to independent media. However, for several years, most Friday mornings he has been a regular guest on state-owned Kossuth Rádió, where he is interviewed by a lead editor of the public broadcasting service (operating from an annual budget of 320 million euros). Katalin Nagy has been almost exclusively the only person allowed to interview Orbán on the state-owned channel throughout his third and fourth term with a two-thirds majority in parliament. She has received the state decoration of the Cross of the Order of Merit of Hungary and doesn’t shy away from asking questions.